JON STEWART, HOST: This idea of liberal bias and the idea, you know, in
your experience, haven't most journalists, haven't their politics been
somewhat more liberal?
DAN RATHER: No, it hasn't been my experience.
STEWART: Oh, that hasn't been your experience?
RATHER: It has not been my experience. Most journalists I grew up with,
most journalists I’ve worked with and practiced with were trying to be
honest brokers of information. Now, what sometimes got you a reputation
you’re liberal, journalists generally form an apprenticeship covering
the police beat at midnight, after midnight, it was Saturday night, the
charity hospital. Journalists, the best of them, do see a Dickensian
side of society that most people don't see. So when they try to call
attention to that, people who don't like it say, "Oh, you're liberal."
It has not been my experience.
I
know that it's widely believed that CBS, NBC, ABC chock full of
liberals. Not true. What it's chock full of is people who wanted to give
honest news, straightforward news, and voted both ways in many
elections. I'm not saying that nobody in the newsroom was liberal any
more than I would say nobody was conservative. Frequently what happened
people who were described as conservatives want to say, "I work at CBS
News, and you know, almost everybody there was liberal." What they
really mean is not everybody there agreed with them all the time. This
is a sham. It's a camouflage for wanting…
STEWART: Do you think it’s been, it seems to have been very effective
though, that working the refs. That's what I would say. It's really
worked, and people are now very afraid to appear in any way as though
they're taking a position on anything.
RATHER: Well, that's true. And that's why I say that journalism,
American journalism in some ways has lost its guts, or it needs a spine
translate. I do not exempt myself in this criticism - made my mistakes
along this line. But there is a price to pay, and I’m not excusing it,
but what happens if you stand up and ask a really tough question now and
challenge say a president or vice president, you know there's going to
be a price to be paid for that. And so often it is, “You know what? I'll
just get in the middle, move with the mass, I’ve got house payments and
car [unintelligible].”
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